Tuesday, June 14, 2011

Via AmericaBlogGay: From SF: Latest hearing on Prop. 8 trial because Judge Walker is gay and has a boyfriend


Today, I'm at the Federal Court Building in San Francisco, to watch the hearing on the Prop. 8 proponents motion to vacate Judge Walker's decision -- because Judge Walker has a boyfriend. The first part of the hearing related to a motion by the Prop. 8 side to order a return of the trial tapes. They really don't want anyone to see the actual testimony. Judge Ware, who has taken over Judge Walker's case load, said he will probably deny the motion to order return of tapes.

The hearing then moved on to the motion to vacate. Charles Cooper from the Prop. 8 defendant/intervenors began by trying to define what kind of interest required recusal by a federal judge. He wanted to link the pecuniary interest to other non-pecuniary interests.

Cooper then got into the meat of his argument. He cited the plaintiffs' brief, noting how it read that "at the heart" of the plaintiffs claim is that they are similarly situated to opposite-sex couples in wanting to get married. According to Cooper, "it now appears Judge Walker..occupied those same shoes as the plaintiffs." Cooper said that Walker "was similarly situated to the plaintiffs." That's because he was in a "long-term, committed relationship."

Judge Ware maintained that the plaintiffs wanted to change their relationship to be allowed to marry. He repeatedly asked Cooper for evidence that Walker wanted to change his relationship. There is none. But, Cooper apparently thinks the very fact that Walker didn't disclose his relationship is evidence enough.

Throughout his time, Cooper made it clear that this motion to vacate revolves around the fact that Walker has a boyfriend. To that Ware said, "Long-term relationship is your marker for wanting to marry." But Cooper also argued that if Walker had no interest in marrying his partner, he would have to disclose that too.

I'm livetweeting here. During the break, I ran into AFER's Board Chair Chad Griffin and the organization's Senior Project Director, Adam Umhoefer. AFER is livetweeting here. Courage Campaign's Rick Jacobs is also at the Court House. He's is liveblogging here.

Our side's lawyer, Theodore Boutrous Jr., just started after the break. First line is that this motion is frivolous and offensive. Yep.

Via AmericaBlgoGay: Judge will rule tomorrow on "frivolous" motion about Judge Walker’s sexual orientation and boyfriend

As I wrote earlier, I was at the Federal Court House in San Francisco today to watch the hearing on the anti-gay side's motion to vacate the Prop. 8 ruling because of Judge Walker's status as a gay man. There was also a hearing on whether the parties had to return the tapes of the trial. Looks like the Judge already decided not to ask for their return.





The lawyer for the Prop. 8 proponents, Charles Cooper, tried really hard to make his case. He couldn't. As in the Prop. 8 trial, there were no facts to back up his assertions. It was really astounding. Cooper kept saying their motion was about disclosure. It was not. It's about blatant homophobia.

The lawyer for the Prop. 8 proponents, Theodore Boutrous, Jr., was excellent. Olson and Boies get a lot of the attention for this case, but the whole legal team is filled with superstars. I watched him at the press conference following the hearing, too. He said of the other side, "Their claims in support of Proposition 8 are baseless. They had no evidence. That's why they filed this motion. This was a desperate, Hail Mary pass they are throwing because they think they are going to lose. And, they should lose." He also said in court and at the presser several times that this motion is "frivolous." It was. Lawyers get sanctioned for filing those kinds of motions, but Boutrous and his colleagues declined to file a complaint.

Judge Ware told the lawyers that he'd be issuing a written decision within 24 hours.

And, I had a chance to talk to two of the plaintiffs, Paul Katami and Jeff Zarrillo, after the hearing to get their thoughts:


I also met the other two plaintiffs, Kristin Perry and Sandra Stier. I thanked all of them for putting themselves on the line for the rest of us. And, also let them know that there's enormous interest in their case outside of California, too.

Via JMG: TODAY'S TOP STORIES

In the eyes of the state of California, the Butte County women and 18,000 other same-sex couples who married during a brief window of opportunity in 2008 are entitled to all the joint benefits.

Monday, June 13, 2011

Dan Savage at Rhodes good Christian churches

Via JMG - great post re: Christians claimign GLBTs are bullying them

Hmmm.

If we were going to be "bullying" the Christianists, we'd start an "anti-breeder" or "less-than-zero population growth" movement:

- pushing to pass laws to invalidate all their marriages

- taking away all the rights of "marriage" from breeders

- requiring breeder women who want public assistance to be permanntly tereilized

- Refuse to recognize their marriages, regardless of whether they are legally recognized in some

- placing strict limits on the number of children that breeders can have and enforcing sterilization laws once the limit has been reached.

- advocating for "don't say straight" laws to keep breeders-to-be confused about their future "choice" to reproduce.

- condemn breeders for only thinking about hot, sweaty, breeder sex with all those bodily fluids getting disgustingly mixed

 - Refuse to provide spousal benefits to straight cissexual  employees while providing extra benefits to LGBT employees

- if an employee is found to be a breeder, the employee can be fired for immorality

- attack straights who obscenely hold hands while walking down the street

- agitate for wars against nations that breed too many people, to help them "thin their overpopulation."

- send "smallpox blankets" into the breeder preserves - places where breeders are sent when caught so that decent people don;t have to be exposed to their filthy habits.

- legitimate children would be produced solely by artificial means, and solely as needed based on projections for orderly population reduction.

- The goal would be a world in which a self-sustaining population of significantly less than a billion people would be able to live in peace and harmony. Of course, the artificially-produced population would be selected on the basis of carrying the "gay gene" so that future populations would be less inclined to become breeders and population could be maintained on a more scientific and eugenic basis.

(NOTE TO CHRISTIANIST READERS: Is *THIS* the kind of nightmare "gay agenda" you've always feared?  First we get civil rights, then we get marriage, then maybe the trans people get our rights, too, and then the Anti-Breeder Communist Dominionists (ABCDs) round you all up at your churches and send you to breeder extermination camps? Bwah-hah-hah!  You know, there are gay clones hiding under your beds right now, waiting for the right moment to steal your children with their black helicopters!)

The non-paradox of tolerance

"Loving" and the Fight for Marriage Equality

Desperate Measures for Prop. 8 Supporters | News

American Foundation for Equal Rights cofounder Chad Griffin issued a statement after the hearing, saying, “Today’s hearing demonstrated yet again that the Proponents of Prop. 8 are extremists who will stop at nothing to keep committed American couples from marrying. They led a campaign that was homophobic and filled with animus. Just as those who opposed interracial marriage 44 years ago, those who oppose the civil rights of gay and lesbian Americans will too find themselves on the wrong side of history.”

Lambda Legal staff attorney Peter Renn also put out a statement shortly after the hearing, predicting that “the court is likely to deny this motion for what it is: a desperate and dangerous witch hunt for gay judges that comes at the expense of judicial integrity.”
Desperate Measures for Prop. 8 Supporters | News
www.advocate.com
A federal judge in San Francisco will hear arguments Monday as to whether the landmark Proposition 8 decision by U.S. chief district judge Vaughn R. Walker should be thrown out because the now-retired jurist did not disclose his same-sex relationship.

Via JMG: Anti-Gay Bigots: Homos Are Bullying Us!


This takes the damn ass fucking cake, but it's no surprise to those of us on Twitter.
As the gay-rights movement advances, there's increasing evidence of an intriguing role reversal: Today, it's the conservative opponents of that movement who seem eager to depict themselves as victims of intolerance. To them, the gay-rights lobby has morphed into a relentless bully — pressuring companies and law firms into policy reversals, making it taboo in some circumstances to express opposition to same-sex marriage. "They're advocating for a lot of changes in the name of tolerance," said Jim Campbell, an attorney with the conservative Alliance Defense Fund. "Yet ironically the tolerance is not returned, for people of faith who don't agree with their agenda." Many gay activists, recalling their movement's past struggles and mindful of remaining bias, consider such protestations by their foes to be hollow and hypocritical.

reposted from Joe

Neil Patrick Harris' 2011 Tony Awards Opening Number